I would say no because of the ongoing trend to outsource and privatize jails and prisons. If there is a profit motive to lock away people, in other words, get convictions, there will be people wrongly convicted of crimes they did not commit. Losing one's voting rights due to wrongful conviction is a travesty of justice. Profits and privatization need to be removed from our criminal justice system.
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O, whatever is the world coming to? I agree with RR, but for a different reason. Being found guilty of a felony has been dummied down just like everything else. It has lost its meaning.
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Could we first not have so many laws on the books that people could be committing felonies without knowing it? I once heard that Americans, on average, commit several felonies a year. Could we concentrate on fixing this first?
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I would say no because of the ongoing trend to outsource and privatize jails and prisons. If there is a profit motive to lock away people, in other words, get convictions, there will be people wrongly convicted of crimes they did not commit. Losing one's firearm ownership rights due to wrongful conviction is a travesty of justice. Profits and privatization need to be removed from our criminal justice system.
See what I did there? If we're going to discuss voting in this context, everything else should be on the table as well.
Absolutely, and they should not be allowed to have computers in prison either.
ND is one of the few states that allow it and think of the trouble that can bring. Hmmmm? Maybe some are blogging right here as we speak.
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Hi garr, what happened to you last night?
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I completely agree with freedomrings.
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We are still American citizens.*****no convicted felons should NOT lose there RIGHT to vote. Rights are not privileges they are RIGHTS. Same applies to the RIGHT to own and possess a gun. Unless a crime involves a firearm, that right should never be taken away.
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Now if you are actually in prison or on parole, then I can understand, but if a person has done there time and paid their debt to society as the judge ordered, than they should be 100percent free as any other American in this country.
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To quote locomotive;
Feb-12-14 11:11 AM Agree | Disagree
Have no fear, willgrr fans. His habit of resurfacing will no doubt prevail again.
The drama will continue...
Whose AtticusFinch, I wonder?
Do any of you know the percentage of adults in this country that are convicted felons???? Id be curious to know how many of you actually know what that number is. And let me tell you a person who has 4 DUI's is dumb for drinking and driving, but to lose voting for life because of that?? Gimme a break.
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I think they have a better right to vote than the the blockers in congress.Only 28 of them thought that we should not default.Goinpeace
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"if a person has done there time and paid their debt to society as the judge ordered, than they should be 100percent free as any other American in this country"
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Computers in prison ain't hooked to the internet idiot. A computer with no network is harmless.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE KNIFFEN?
And it makes me sick to death that felons are not allowed to serve in the military. That is just pathetic in my opinion. everyone wants to sit and talk about how gays, blacks, women, and whoever else are discriminated against in this country. Well let me tell you, the number one group of people that are discriminated and have their rights violated on a daily basis are convicted felons and ex convicts. I get a kick out of the people who think they are so much better. Like they never broke the law, everyone person on this planet has broken a law at some point in time, you were just never caught. Whether its underage drinking, speeding, poaching a deer or two out of season. Don't act so high and mighty some of you.
Yup, I am speaking from experience. Which makes my FACTS worth a heck of a lot more than yours.
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By the way I vote :)
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"And it makes me sick to death that felons are not allowed to serve in the military."
Gee, it's too bad they can't become police officers, either. Voting is one thing; nobody should be disenfranchised, even while they're in prison. But with the problems the military is currently experiencing (brushing over the felonious behaviour of its personnel, or begrudgingly meting out wrist-tapping sentences), generally felons are not what the services need more of.
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Feb-12-14 1:25 PM Agree | Disagree
By the way I vote :)
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So it would appear the law means nothing to you and how many illegal guns do you have? What did you do time for?
Depend what the crime was. You label a "felon" as a "felon". Well let me tell you a serial killer, child molester, multiple DUI offender, and petty pot seller are not the same "felon" in my book. If that's the case than everyone who breaks the law is the same whether it's a felon or misdemeanor or petty parking in a handicap spot, which I see people do all the time.
By the way, my crime was non violent, and had 0 victims except my family who was victims by the state of Montana for their son, brother, and father being kidnapped and incarcerated for 4 years for having a plant.
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me voting is not breaking the law. Im not the one who is responsible for the voting list. They asked for my id and I provided my proper, legal ND drivers license. All perfectly legal. Thank you
Ever had a speeding ticket, do you stop for the full 3 seconds at 4 way stops, do you hit the gas when the light turns yellow instead of yielding like you are suppose to?? Do you turn into the closest lane when turning onto a 4 lane road like Broadway???
The law is the law bud, no matter what it is.
maybe people that don't know how to drive properly should have their driving privileges revoked for life. Don't matter the crime if it's driving related youre done.
Conveying one's self from point A to point B is a fundamental human right, regardless of the method they choose.
Driving is not a "privilege".
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But that's just it. Too many rights have become "privileges" because our aspirant societal masters cannot stand to have common people exercise any degree of self-ownership. No, they feel a need to own us and everything we do. They will stop at nothing to rein in everything.
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