"willgrr, I wouldn't have said "why do you hate America" in the run up to the Iraq war."
Not you specifically, but don't try to rewrite history and say the wing dingers did not question our patriotism because we questioned President Dumb Dumbs lead up to war.
Do I have to dredge up all the quotes?
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willgrr, I know that this happened under Pres. Bush. Was it correct? It was a somewhat different situation. We'd just gone through 9/11. Emotions were running high. People wanted something done. In that kind of an environment, any cautionary language was likely to be pounced upon.
Is the situation in Syria different? What national security issues would Pres. Obama's "limited action" address?
You've proven a point though. It is not a lack of patriotism to question huge decisions that our country has made or will be making. 'Nuff said.
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Rather, I didn't say "why do you hate America" in the run up to the Iraq war.
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willgrr, I wouldn't have said "why do you hate America" in the run up to the Iraq war.
"Look where Bin Laden is now and compare that to the Twin Towers of disaster Bush Cheney.
Why do you hate America"
This last sentence is pure deflection.
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"...how has Big Bibi earned your credence? There are scores of photographic evidence of Israeli sponsored atrocities. He is as bad as Assad."
willgrr, I know the Israelis have been doing what they call "defending themselves" for years, just as the Palestinians in the area call their activities "defending themselves." That makes it a war, ongoing. Both parties can have at it.
The reason I say Bibi has more credence than Putin is that he knows more about Syria by being in close proximity.
Our country has historically considered Israel an ally. Why don't you tell me why the US should alter that arrangement, willgrr?
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I could care less what Putin says about Syria, but I will give a tiny bit of credence to what Bibi says about Syria, as it is Israel's next-door neighbor. Too close for comfort?
It's not a lack of patriotism to question an "action" in Syria. What is the US security interest, as one Democrat House member from CA asked on NBC this morning. Do we have an answer?
President Obama is scheduled to make the case for "action" in Syria before the American people on Tuesday. We'll see if it's convincing.
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Veritas, you've declared after more than one of my posts "was there a point" or some such query.
I am typing in English. If the language is too hard for you, I suggest grabbing a dictionary.
On we go...
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"Should read his take on both benghazi & the Syria situation as credible..."
1st reason: he's a Republican who has served with both a Republican and Democrat administration.
2nd reason: he's a Republican who agrees with the current administration's position.
3rd reason: he's a Republican who has somehow escaped the broad brush of condemnation foisted upon Pres. Bush and everyone else in his administration.
Note: 2nd reason is why we have 3rd reason. You're welcome for this connecting-the-dots post. It's a public service.
DustOff, that's more than I know. It's above my pay grade.
Maybe somebody else could tell us that?
(Sometimes I have to do the heavy lifting all by myself...)
So I googled not just "Robert Gates response" but "Robert Gates response to Syria" and then something came up.
WA Times 9-5-13
"Robert M. Gates, a Republican who served as secretary of defense under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, is calling on lawmakers on Capitol Hill to back the Obama administration’s plan to launch a military strike against the Assad regime, Politico reported."
So I googled "Robert Gates response" and all I found dealt with the Benghazi matter, not with the impending "action" with Syria.
Is this supposed to be a one-size-fits-all source, Veritas?
Jack, if you like peas served with vinegar, have at it...
Too sour for me
Missy, I once posted the quote by Nancy Pelosi concerning the ACA. willgrr seems concerned about semantics. The essence of the quote is "you have to pass it to see what's in it" but I'll c/p again, so everyone's super-duper clear on exactly what she said...
"But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
Speaking of accuracy, I'd like to add to your original statement about willgrr.
He is one Great Misogynistic Democrat.
I was referring to you libs who post on here on MDN who according to you has no intelligent posts, but you already know that. There are a few in the political realm who support a strike, but McCain and others are being hit with the reality of what the American people want and that is to stay out of a civil war.
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Yea Will Garr, this country is in trouble..............
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And I did not present that they were Proof, I asked a question. You just wanted to slap me around. And you just call me a liar. And you just did not answer. What a Great Democrat you are.
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Your right. I listened to them and ask someone out there to tell me who are we backing. And where is your "proof" , actual proof they are edited. Where, where , where????
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willgrr, I can agree with your 8:50 pm post, except for the reference to namexxx's hawk/dove post.
This is a tough one.
Veritas, I am not Bryan O's secretary, neither am I yours.
Ask him your own question, for pete's sake.
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Facts, Will Garr. Where do I find the "true middle of the road Facts?" Not yours, or mine. You will never find them. You believe what you want. I will believe what I want. Simple.
What part of "this" don't you get?
No honey, your President.
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Not great. The United State can't even protect their own, much less another countries. We back them, oops, we should not have done that. We give them money, Our tax dollars, oops, sorry. Do I like this, no. But, I have lost faith in this government.
I have yet to see anyone write the defense for Obama's yes we attack, no we don't, it isn't me, it belongs to the congress. McCain, yes before he is a no. Good grief.
From Huffington Post 8-29-13
Rumsfeld also joined Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in criticizing the administration over leaks on potential air strikes in Syria.
"The idea of demystifying what you're going to do for the enemy is mindless," Rumsfeld said. "I can't imagine what they're thinking, why they would want the Assad regime to have crystal clarity."
That one's a real quote, Veritas.
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