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Should Minot Public Schools spend more or less on extracurricular activities such as speech and debate trips and athletics?

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Cutperfect

Sep-01-13 1:24 AM

Where is the story? Run a story that reports costs, student activity fees, ticket sales, economic impacts, etc. Inform the public and then ask the question.Do you have journalists? Or do you have people that just copy and paste press releases and come up with stupid poll questions? This paper has gone so down hill. Sell out to the Forum and get some reporters.

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ndbowhunter6

Sep-01-13 8:38 AM

I'm not sure how the person who comes up with these slanted polls can sleep at night...I think the Kenmare paper is looking better all the time. I'm voting 'yes' on the bond issue because our kids need this...period.

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animal

Sep-01-13 9:55 AM

The answer should be plain to see! The story about the 5 MSU football players, sports is all these so called schools care about! They ship in these drug users from all over the world just so they can win a title.RE: the NDSU FELONES,These aren't ND athletes, how can ANYONE in ND be proud of a ND championship? It is absolutely shameful and disgusting! These so called schools should be closed if all they want is to play ball, how about spending OUR tax dollars on OUR students, educating them and pteparing them for life instead of importing criminals to win stupid ball games! OH! but then the teachers might actually have to do some work. This latest deal in minot makes me sick, I hope they shut down the entire program for the year!!

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Nancy1

Sep-01-13 10:23 AM

Extra-curriculars are a very tiny part of the school budget. Debate has always been the most expensive one to run per student - a lot of travel and brings in no income. The high school musical basically comes out even - tickets are sold. Football generates income. All students pay to participate - 7th through 12th. These are positive activities for students as well as enjoyable events to attend by citizens of all ages - go to a football game this fall and see it for yourself. Generally speaking students who are involved in extra-curriculars are better students - both in grades and in behavior. There are always exceptions - but very few. The MHS football team - as an example - always does community service. For years they have gone to Roosevelt Park or some other Minot spot and done cleanup, etc. They are taught by example to be positive members of Minot. Teachers are teaching the basics and work hard. Attend school functions - volunteer to help a student who struggles.

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Nancy1

Sep-01-13 10:25 AM

Extra-curriculars are a very tiny part of the school budget. Debate has always been the most expensive one to run per student - a lot of travel and brings in no income. The high school musical basically comes out even - tickets are sold. Football generates income. All students pay to participate - 7th through 12th. These are positive activities for students as well as enjoyable events to attend by citizens of all ages - go to a football game this fall and see it for yourself. Generally speaking students who are involved in extra-curriculars are better students - both in grades and in behavior. There are always exceptions - but very few. The MHS football team - as an example - always does community service. For years they have gone to Roosevelt Park or some other Minot spot and done cleanup, etc. They are taught by example to be positive members of Minot. Teachers are teaching the basics and work hard. Attend school functions - volunteer to help a student who struggles.

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animal

Sep-01-13 11:04 AM

Nancy1 more liberal BS

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muleskinner

Sep-01-13 11:18 AM

We don't need no education

We don't need no thought control

All in all, you're just another brick in the wall.

Pink Floyd

more cowbell

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namexxx

Sep-01-13 1:27 PM

MDN's owners have never been subtle -- but this parade of anti-school funding questions is over the top.

How about this?

How about we pass a law that none of the wealthy business owners in town have to pay any more taxes? . . . And, they will no longer benefit from any tax write-offs, tax shelters or loop-holes.

Then will MDN's editors stop whining?

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73Hockey

Sep-01-13 3:28 PM

bdgi, while I somewhat see your point, comparing special needs students doesn't promote your cause very well. How much extra money over sports is invested in special education programs, while a very good cause, we cannot afford to give EVERY student one on one teacher/student ratio for example so how is that fair based on your example? Comparing special needs to sports is like apples to oranges. Student athletes also have to pay into the program per sport, so there is buy in for the program. As for one kid being better than another, I am tired of the everyone is a winner campaign we constantly lie to our children about. If my child isn't as good he/she has to work harder, it's how great things are built. If you have a kid that "rides the bench" they need to work a little harder and this goes for life after school as well.

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Nancy1

Sep-01-13 4:53 PM

I know it is close to 70% of the student body in high school participates in some extracurricular. Not everyone can play a saxophone as well or sing as well or throw a football as well but that is truth about all the subjects taught. Some are high honor students ad some are C students. There are special need kids in many extra curriculars. Physically challenged kids can and do participate in student council, Key Club etc. Many learning disabled kids - dyslexia would be an example - participate across the board. I suppose all athletics, music, foreign language clubs, honor society, speech, debate, etc could be done away with. I have a feeling you would still complain about schools.

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Nancy1

Sep-01-13 7:04 PM

Minot Public Schools do not bus students except special needs. Parents must drive them to and from school. Run for school board and take care of it all.

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Cutperfect

Sep-01-13 10:03 PM

@Bill You really don't know much about Minot Public Schools do you? Do you live here? Or are you just a troll who has found a home commenting on happenings of Minot. Minot doesn't bus students, special ed students can participate on whatever teams they make, and coaches teach a full load and have a completely separate contract for coaching. I'm sure most could make more working a part time job in this town instead. Schools are available for outside groups and usually are free of charge or a small fee to cover the cost of janitorial staff, etc.I guess I feel the schools should spend more. Does the cost of additional programs that keep kids healthy, active, and involved surpass the cost of hundreds of kids with time on their hands? I think it does.

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Cutperfect

Sep-02-13 12:00 AM

@billdoesntgetit Well, that's quite the rant. All of this evidence that you want is available through the school district. No smoking gun or hidden figures. Go right in and they will provide it for you. You do live here right? They have public meetings on the budget where you can comment. Meetings are usually after work hours, so you can come in after work. You do work here?

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Nancy1

Sep-02-13 1:07 AM

I will call and get the exact percentage of budget. It is public record. You could call too but I will call and get exact percentage and actual dollars.

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muleskinner

Sep-02-13 12:31 PM

Question: Blue Cross/Blue Shield insures the teachers and the public school system, so how much have they increased their premiums this scholastic year?

Property taxes pay for the health insurance premiums for all employees in the school system.

The CEO of BC/BS

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muleskinner

Sep-02-13 12:33 PM

The CEO of BC/BS must be happy these days.

Taxpayers aren't.

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Nancy1

Sep-02-13 6:46 PM

All extracurriculars equal 2.16% of the budget. 1,664,951.59. This covers salaries, officials- refs and umps - health services - equipment plus all travel. This includes athletics, music, speech, debate, FHA, etc

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73Hockey

Sep-02-13 8:07 PM

Somebody obviously never made the team when in school. With childhood obesity the way it is, MORE SPORTS!

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Nancy1

Sep-02-13 8:38 PM

Facilities are used for PE classes as well as athletics. PE is important and yes - even in the old days there was PE. Same with the theater and music rooms - used for classes.

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Nancy1

Sep-02-13 9:06 PM

Actually this year's budget is balanced and last year's did have the deficit you mentioned because they had to dip into the interim fund to pay for the land that the new Ramstad is on as well as expand the student capacity as FEMA would not pay for it - FEMA pays like for like - in other words only the square footage lost to the flood.

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Nancy1

Sep-02-13 10:58 PM

Did you know that any student in high school who has a failing grade - and with computers it is checked every day in every class - has an additional hour of school until the grade is passing. There has been band and sports and other extracurriculars since the first yearbook was published in 1905 in Minot. Go up to MHS and see the huge display of National Merit Scholarship Finalists - the standards have remained throughout the years. You obviously do not like facts - you don't want to pay taxes for schools so as one person said we need to move along. However in March attend Chuck Full of Music or attend a game - you will see citizens of all ages thoroughly enjoying them as well as see students in positive activities. Farewell

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Cutperfect

Sep-03-13 12:27 AM

@Nancy1 I have figured out that Billdoesntgetit won't attend any of those events because he doesn't live here. He's a troll and he seems to have some fetish for our community.

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Cutperfect

Sep-03-13 7:00 PM

@Billdoesntgetit I'm aware that every town has a school district.The bottom line is you are not a patron of this district. You are not part of this community. How does your district do things? If you are in fact near Minot, I'm sure your district will also be looking to expand in the near future. Are you involved in your local district? I hope so because you seem to have a lot of ideas about education and as a patron of your local school district you can have an input, but when it comes to Minot....nada

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