I read the speech. It was like "sweetness and light" and "talking points" all rolled into one.
My take: Pres. Obama inherited the AUMF (Authorization to Use Military Force) from the former administration (natch). Now America will just have to do better when trying to get along with other countries/cultures.
I dunno. Read the speech and see what all of you think...
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"But this war, like all wars, must end. That’s what history advises. That’s what our democracy demands.
"Our victory against terrorism won’t be measured in a surrender ceremony at a battleship, or a statue being pulled to the ground. Victory will be measured in parents taking their kids to school; immigrants coming to our shores; fans taking in a ballgame; a veteran starting a business; a bustling city street; a citizen shouting her concerns at a President.
"The quiet determination; that strength of character and bond of fellowship; that refutation of fear -- that is both our sword and our shield. And long after the current messengers of hate have faded from the world’s memory, alongside the brutal despots, and deranged madmen, and ruthless demagogues who litter history -- the flag of the United States will still wave from small-town cemeteries to national monuments, to distant outposts abroad. And that flag will still stand for freedom."
5-23-13 whitehouse . gov
"The AUMF (Authorization to Use Military Force) is now nearly 12 years old. The Afghan war is coming to an end. Core al Qaeda is a shell of its former self. Groups like AQAP (Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula) must be dealt with, but in the years to come, not every collection of thugs that labels themselves al Qaeda will pose a credible threat to the United States. Unless we discipline our thinking, our definitions, our actions, we may be drawn into more wars we don’t need to fight, or continue to grant Presidents unbound powers more suited for traditional armed conflicts between nation states.
"So I look forward to engaging Congress and the American people in efforts to refine, and ultimately repeal, the AUMF’s mandate. And I will not sign laws designed to expand this mandate further. Our systematic effort to dismantle terrorist organizations must continue. But this war, like all wars, must end. That’s what history advises. That’s what o
DustOff, I'm still chuckling over that song...
How great we art
Name-calling is always the last move when there is no more argument.
Sounds like "Desperado" over the AM radio...
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My goof. I meant "Veritas" when I said "DustOff."
At first glance, and without reading the article yet, the "employer-provided health insurance" as "an idea whose time has passed" is one I might agree with, provided that it's not going to be government-mandated, government-provided health insurance instead.
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Thanks, DustOff. I hope I can make the time today.
"The LIBS on this site are NOT saying one word about the pros of lite o's plan?"
DustOff, your point is well worth considering. I'd have thought that there'd be many continued words of affirmation and adulation about the ACA in its entirety from those who supported its passage, especially those who avidly support our president's policies, of which ACA was a biggie.
I'd like to hear more from Democrats/liberals exactly WHY the President is delaying implementation of certain ACA provisions until January 2015.
Y'all have the floor...
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Funny how the libs side with the dipstick no matter what the situation.
BEST BARTENDER JOKE EVER !
A lawyer, an Illegal Alien, a Pathological Liar, a Muslim, a Communist, and a Black Guy walk into a BAR.
"What'll it be, Mr. President?"
Too bad you "can't" read DustOff's posts, Veritas. You might learn a thing or two about how conservatives feel and think.
"To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy."
Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
BTW, that quote's not in the watered-down modern version, The Art of Compromise. Thought you'd like to know...
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I second DustOff's post.
Why aren't all the legislators who voted this thing in shouting from the hilltops that it should be implemented in 2014, just how ACA was passed? Why isn't President Obama himself supporting full and timely implementation of the legislation? This was a boondoggle from the beginning, and nobody really likes it, do they?
Cry me a constitutional river, Veritas. The founding fathers set up our republic, which is not based entirely on popular vote. Your stat of 3 million voters vs. 300,000 in ND has more to do with bullying than reality.
"Nine in 10 Americans support expanding background checks on gun purchases in a recent Washington Post-ABC News poll..."
Did you find a poll taken of North Dakotans and their opinions about background checks for gun purchases?
If or when you do, it's possible that the ND Senators and Representative would consider that poll information to be something they need to know. Can you say re-election?
Who knows what state's residents were polled in the WA Post-ABC one you cited. And the 2 ND Senators and 1 ND Representative should make governing decisions based on that poll instead of trying to represent their constituents' positions?
Not much of a politician yet, are you, Veritas?
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Lets see I believe it was the Democrats that SCREAMED at the top of their lungs that Romney was too rich.
You can lie and lie and lie but you cannot hide from your lies rajjj. The Dems HATE the rich they claim yet they kiss the backside of anyone or anything with money just to get their votes.
Your not true Americans your true onlyu to anyone who will give you money. You have no com[passion for the poor you use them as your weapon and as your sounding post to get votes.
Dems are low down creepy crawly back stabbing lying creatures that step on anyone they have to to get noticed.
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So Rajjj Calling for it on the 4th of July versus the 5th of July or the 3rd of july? Your point is?
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Billdoesnt re: your 9:58 post. Are you calling for a military coup here in the USA, and on the 4th of July no less? Whoa.
About the assertion that the Dems hate the rich eh...no. But maybe we could say the rich hate the poor who work for them. They don't seem to want to contribute to their well being by assisting with the health ins. (and get a tax break too no less.) But the fact is those employees who can't get the assistance from their employer can still qualify for health ins. with a tax credit, nothing changes there. In fact it looks like nothing has changed the rich keep the money that they earn from the labor of the poor employee, I hate the rich...oops. ;)
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willgarr Jul-04-13 2:34 PM Agree | Disagree
I got that poll from the same place me and Obama get our poll results. wwwdot pulledoutofmyazzdotcom
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Garr I don't suppose you can supply the facts to that poll?
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Veritas, President Truman was a liberal Democrat. No surprises in the quotes from his SOTU address.
"...most of our people cannot afford to pay for the care they need.
I have often and strongly urged that this condition demands a national health program...."
Same song, new decade.
"There are numerous reasons why they all have opted out, but the main one is the positioning of the Republican base drifting to the extreme right!"
Horse feathers, or if you prefer it, cow pie. A majority of North Dakotans were against ACA's passage at the time it was being debated and voted upon.
The Big 3 saw the handwriting on the wall, the Senators jumped ship, and Rep. Pomeroy was defeated in his re-election bid by--of all people that Dems/libs love to hate--Rick Berg.
Now President Obama has declared that certain provisions of ACA won't be implemented on businesses until 2015, which is after the 2014 mid-term elections. Veeerrry convenient.
Funny how the Dems who CLAIM to hate the rich and support the poor are now going to let the rich delay Obama care..
Funny ain't it?
Seems the Dems are looking for votes again.. So they have to ****tt on people and make the little guy now suffer to help the Dems get money from Companies and Unions for their 2014 run..
Talk about Mobs.. Obama and his Mafia need to be run out just like Morsi..
That Chang and Eng post, Veritas? Excuse me for what I'm about to say, but what did that post have to do with the price of tea in China?
Back to topic...the Affordable Care Act is turning out not to be so affordable or caring, with politicians of all sorts backing away from it as fast and far as possible.
I believe the former Sens. Dorgan & Conrad got this one right. They voted for ACA, discovered quickly (or knew beforehand) it was a stinker, and got out of DC before the chickens came home to roost on it.
Y'know, Rep. Pelosi's comment "we have to pass it before we know what's in it" is going to become part of the American lexicon. What it'll mean is "me approve this? are you dreaming?"
"One is the loneliest number..."
Looks like that's Veritas, singing his song all by himself, strumming a ukelele or beating a drum.
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Pie in the sky or pie in your eye.
That's the Veritas way.
Hope all have a great 4th!
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I don't know if it'll be good for the Country, but it'll be good for me. A better policy with lower premium. There is a tax credit coming our way, most people know nothing of it, and I've never heard "The Limpman" mention it. Not unlike his lies about Obama raising income taxes 'til finally, after 3 years, put on the spot and admitting that under Obama most paid less income tax.
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