I read the speech. It was like "sweetness and light" and "talking points" all rolled into one.
My take: Pres. Obama inherited the AUMF (Authorization to Use Military Force) from the former administration (natch). Now America will just have to do better when trying to get along with other countries/cultures.
I dunno. Read the speech and see what all of you think...
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"But this war, like all wars, must end. That’s what history advises. That’s what our democracy demands.
"Our victory against terrorism won’t be measured in a surrender ceremony at a battleship, or a statue being pulled to the ground. Victory will be measured in parents taking their kids to school; immigrants coming to our shores; fans taking in a ballgame; a veteran starting a business; a bustling city street; a citizen shouting her concerns at a President.
"The quiet determination; that strength of character and bond of fellowship; that refutation of fear -- that is both our sword and our shield. And long after the current messengers of hate have faded from the world’s memory, alongside the brutal despots, and deranged madmen, and ruthless demagogues who litter history -- the flag of the United States will still wave from small-town cemeteries to national monuments, to distant outposts abroad. And that flag will still stand for freedom."
5-23-13 whitehouse . gov
"The AUMF (Authorization to Use Military Force) is now nearly 12 years old. The Afghan war is coming to an end. Core al Qaeda is a shell of its former self. Groups like AQAP (Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula) must be dealt with, but in the years to come, not every collection of thugs that labels themselves al Qaeda will pose a credible threat to the United States. Unless we discipline our thinking, our definitions, our actions, we may be drawn into more wars we don’t need to fight, or continue to grant Presidents unbound powers more suited for traditional armed conflicts between nation states.
"So I look forward to engaging Congress and the American people in efforts to refine, and ultimately repeal, the AUMF’s mandate. And I will not sign laws designed to expand this mandate further. Our systematic effort to dismantle terrorist organizations must continue. But this war, like all wars, must end. That’s what history advises. That’s what o
DustOff, I'm still chuckling over that song...
How great we art
Name-calling is always the last move when there is no more argument.
Sounds like "Desperado" over the AM radio...
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My goof. I meant "Veritas" when I said "DustOff."
At first glance, and without reading the article yet, the "employer-provided health insurance" as "an idea whose time has passed" is one I might agree with, provided that it's not going to be government-mandated, government-provided health insurance instead.
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Thanks, DustOff. I hope I can make the time today.
"The LIBS on this site are NOT saying one word about the pros of lite o's plan?"
DustOff, your point is well worth considering. I'd have thought that there'd be many continued words of affirmation and adulation about the ACA in its entirety from those who supported its passage, especially those who avidly support our president's policies, of which ACA was a biggie.
I'd like to hear more from Democrats/liberals exactly WHY the President is delaying implementation of certain ACA provisions until January 2015.
Y'all have the floor...
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Too bad you "can't" read DustOff's posts, Veritas. You might learn a thing or two about how conservatives feel and think.
"To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy."
Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
BTW, that quote's not in the watered-down modern version, The Art of Compromise. Thought you'd like to know...
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I second DustOff's post.
Why aren't all the legislators who voted this thing in shouting from the hilltops that it should be implemented in 2014, just how ACA was passed? Why isn't President Obama himself supporting full and timely implementation of the legislation? This was a boondoggle from the beginning, and nobody really likes it, do they?
Cry me a constitutional river, Veritas. The founding fathers set up our republic, which is not based entirely on popular vote. Your stat of 3 million voters vs. 300,000 in ND has more to do with bullying than reality.
"Nine in 10 Americans support expanding background checks on gun purchases in a recent Washington Post-ABC News poll..."
Did you find a poll taken of North Dakotans and their opinions about background checks for gun purchases?
If or when you do, it's possible that the ND Senators and Representative would consider that poll information to be something they need to know. Can you say re-election?
Who knows what state's residents were polled in the WA Post-ABC one you cited. And the 2 ND Senators and 1 ND Representative should make governing decisions based on that poll instead of trying to represent their constituents' positions?
Not much of a politician yet, are you, Veritas?
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Veritas, President Truman was a liberal Democrat. No surprises in the quotes from his SOTU address.
"...most of our people cannot afford to pay for the care they need.
I have often and strongly urged that this condition demands a national health program...."
Same song, new decade.
"There are numerous reasons why they all have opted out, but the main one is the positioning of the Republican base drifting to the extreme right!"
Horse feathers, or if you prefer it, cow pie. A majority of North Dakotans were against ACA's passage at the time it was being debated and voted upon.
The Big 3 saw the handwriting on the wall, the Senators jumped ship, and Rep. Pomeroy was defeated in his re-election bid by--of all people that Dems/libs love to hate--Rick Berg.
Now President Obama has declared that certain provisions of ACA won't be implemented on businesses until 2015, which is after the 2014 mid-term elections. Veeerrry convenient.
That Chang and Eng post, Veritas? Excuse me for what I'm about to say, but what did that post have to do with the price of tea in China?
Back to topic...the Affordable Care Act is turning out not to be so affordable or caring, with politicians of all sorts backing away from it as fast and far as possible.
I believe the former Sens. Dorgan & Conrad got this one right. They voted for ACA, discovered quickly (or knew beforehand) it was a stinker, and got out of DC before the chickens came home to roost on it.
Y'know, Rep. Pelosi's comment "we have to pass it before we know what's in it" is going to become part of the American lexicon. What it'll mean is "me approve this? are you dreaming?"
"One is the loneliest number..."
Looks like that's Veritas, singing his song all by himself, strumming a ukelele or beating a drum.
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Pie in the sky or pie in your eye.
That's the Veritas way.
Hope all have a great 4th!
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leftwing you are very clever with the faux news? I bet you made that up didnt you?
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Sometimes when I read these posts, I really don't feel like I live in Minot. Where did all you Obama lovers come from?? Go back to Minneasota or Illinois or wherever you came from.
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Peewee, you idiot, nowhere does it say in the question that ACA isn't Obamacare. wow, what are you saying. We all know ACA is obamacare. Get a job and get your own insurance!!!!!
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"Won't change the fact ACA is a constitutionally recognized federal program..."
In fact, the SCOTUS "constitutionally recognized" ACA as a tax, after President Obama went on record more than once saying it wasn't a tax.
"Khosla gave $1 million in 2012 to Priorities USA Action, a political action committee that spent $66 million to defeat Republicans, according to Federal Election Commission records and OpenSecrets****, the website of the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Center for Responsive Politics."
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Palo Alto Online 6-6-13
"Tickets are $2,500 per person to attend a 5 p.m. reception in the Palo Alto home of Marci & Mike McCue, and $32,400 per person (the maximum allowed per calendar year) to attend a 6:30 p.m. dinner at the Palo Alto home of Vinod and Neeru Khosla. The maximum donation includes opportunities for discussion and photos, according to the program for the evening.
"'Just as he helped House Democrats recently, the president is back in town to help us hold the Senate,' said event spokesman Wade Randlett in a letter. 'Both events will be at private homes, so will be especially intimate. With key (second-term) issues ranging from immigration reform to climate change to trying again on gun violence prevention, the stakes for holding the Senate (in the November 2014 election) couldn't be higher.'
"Khosla is a venture capitalist noted for his interest in cutting-edge green enterprises...Khosla gave $1 million in 2012 to Priorities USA Action, a political
"535 Men & Women spending more time campaigning and soliciting election monies from special interest (lobby) groups than running the country..."
They're all politicians, aren't they.
Though this is an interesting deflective technique from holding the current administration responsible for anything, I do think the president can and should be included in Veritas' rant. All one has to do is delete "535 Men & Women" and insert "President Obama."
And yes, I do know President Obama can't be re-elected after this, his second term. But it would be nice for him to know what is going on in his administration, on his watch, instead of giving speeches (and raising money) to castigate any and all who might oppose his policies.
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at least carter lived long enough to see a worse president than he was. i wonder if this will hurt the messiah's chance of being added to Mt Rushmore?
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