After your first comment, I wouldn't want you to carry either.
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Personally, if it were me the gun would be concealed and no one but me and the required personal would know I had it. I understand how long death lasts and wish that for no one.
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Rugby reader, don't forget it's the criminals not the rest of us who assault people. What would you protect yourself with if confronted by a person with a gun who intends to do serious harm to you. How about some sort of sleeping gas that could quickly and harmlessly put everyone at the school asleep until we could get the crazy ones into custody. This is just as crazy so feel free to laugh.
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yes!! On a volunteer basis,with proper training and extra pay for the ones that decide to take that responsibility.Also EMT training for all teachers should be mandatory. Also teachers should be allowed to discipline students, without parents interfering, like they did 30 years ago! These parents that don't believe in discipline are the ones that are to blame for these killings, not the guns!!!
Rugbyreader take a deep breath,splash some cold water on your face and see if you can grasp reality for just a moment!
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Some of the sheriffs departments in the Baton Rouge area are hiring more deputies. The plan is to put deputies in the schools. However they don't have enough in their budget, their plan is to rotate schools.
My sister in-law took her CCW over the Chrismas break. She is a teacher and if and when the school changes the policy on CCW she is ready to protect the childern.
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BLOOMFIELD, CT (WFSB) - Police in Bloomfield said they arrested a man Monday afternoon after he pulled out a BB gun as President Barack Obama's motorcade approached the area.
MOREAdditional LinksThe firearm turned out to be a BB gun, but officers did not know that at the time and had to tackle the man, identified as Joseph Stravinskas, according to sources.
This happened near the intersection of Charter Avenue and Cottage Grove Road as the motorcade passed.
No one was hurt.
Sources said the Secret Service was at the police department to speak with Stravinskas about what took place as Obama's motorcade approached.
According to sources, Stravinskas was pacing back-and-forth as the motorcade approached, and then pulled out the BB gun.
Obama was at the University of Hartford late Monday afternoon to talk about federal gun control measures in the wake of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in December.
Just a thought for coffee talk. Do th
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Just a thought for coffee talk. Do you think that is was staged??
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"...it's the criminals not the rest of us who assault people."
Not specifically directing this at Early, but that pretty much sums up the argument. At what point does one of the 'rest of us' become criminal? Obviously, when they assault someone.
Even today, the monsters seem due on Maple Street. (For those of you who might remember your Rod Serling...)
Yes, lets fill schools with guns and see how many students and teachers end up dying.
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Well, if I were a student at a school that had a teacher who carried a gun, I'd carry a gun to school for my own protection.
You never know when one of those teachers with a gun might go postal at the school.
Best not to take any chances.
minireader I think the guy wanted to commit suicide by cop..
Happens alot. people who don't have the guts to kill themselves but want to die pull a gun (many times toy) on a cop and get themselves killed.
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Hahaha maybe sleeping gas was a good idea. I wasn't insinuating being safe is crazy by the way.
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No Bill we think mini is just fine and playing with a full deck and has all his marbles..but you Bill? Not so much!!!
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zrider I take it you prefer the Sandy Hook method where no one has a gun but the shooter right?
If every teacher was armed no one would be coming in to kill people.
How many idiots do you see attacking the police stations?
I rest my case!!!
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didn't know we were counting, but my comment rec'd 7 ;-)
Weigh the options: How many school shootings have there been that we could reasonably expect to have been prevented by a teacher with a gun, versus how many school shootings could be caused by an angry student managing to get a hold of a teacher's gun.
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Building on Heisenberg's comment, the dangers wouldn't necessarily be limited to an angry student's obtaining of a teacher/deputy/loosely-organised-citizen-soldier's weapon either; any number of accidents, misfortunes, or simple acts of negligence could result that would far outweigh any safety the weapons might be intended to provide. Plus it's an unreasonable assumption that most any of these lay figures would react appropriately in a worst-case scenario. Many ranking police officials have come forward in the past few months with the professional opinion that multiple armed persons in such a situation would unnecessarily complicate matters and possibly delay police response.
And considering for a moment the general motivations for many (if not most) teachers, it is a terrible lot to expect of them their ability to shoot with intent to kill a student (i.e. child, gun or no), who they probably know and possibly know quite well. At least some of the time (more so than instances of vigilantism, in any case) these adults are able to talk the student down or otherwise prevent further carnage.
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How many gunman would want to come in shooting at a fully armed school?
How many gunman have you see come in and start shooting up a police station.
These guys may be mentally ill but they also for the most part can figure the odds against them.
Why did the Colorado gunman pick the theater that said no firearms allowed?
geeez folks common sense please...
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Sort of silly, BGDGI, when you consider Texas police are still looking for the person or persons who shot a lawyer right outside of a courthouse. Or that on 5 April an officer was shot and killed inside the Jackson, MS, police headquarters.
...which is not to in any way give your argument an undue sense of weight or practicability. Because following your line of thought, once every school was armed to the teeth these 'gunmen' would simply pick other non-armed targets. The cycle would continue until virtually everyone would be armed at all times. What you're suggesting as a solution to gun violence is a broken society which mirrors Mogadishu at its worst moments, or a bad day in the Lebanon. It's utter nonsense.
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There are schools in the Fargo districts that have had gun protection for several years.
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Why not eliminate schools all together....with the internet it can all be done at home...give the money saved on teachers to the parents to home school their kids...if they don't learn much,they can only blame themselves....I guarantee this would stop school shootings :)
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Lets just hope the criminals don't start to use poison like they did back in the 70-80's. Remember when people were dying from tampered food and medicine? If you forgot maybe you remember razor blades and poison for Halloween. In a contest of violence the most violent contender will surely win.
Perhaps inadvertently, I think Early has a finger on the pulse of the thing. Razor blades and foodstuff tampering - like the "HIV pins" which scared people off from public phones a couple decades ago - are both examples of urban myth or overblown anomalies, largely the product of the media playing off people's boundless love of worry. School shootings, while horrific, are in and of themselves rare and unlikely. However, they condense and highlight broader flaws in the culture. Focusing entirely on any one particular element of these flaws has little chance of producing an effective or meaningful sort of improvement.
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