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Supporting school bond

November 10, 2013

Wally Hankla, Minot Our city has a big decision to make on Dec. 10....

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muleskinner

Nov-16-13 10:43 AM

The school lands trust fund receives approximately 20 million dollars every two years in tobacco tax. If North Dakotans would just increase their tobacco usage, the fund could receive even more tobacco tax money.

Smokers help educate North Dakota's children.

Thank North Dakota's smokers for helping build the trust fund.

Show some appreciation for this group instead of acting like hypocrites.

Buy more tobacco products in North Dakota so students can become more educated.

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OldCat

Nov-14-13 10:09 PM

Figure out a different financing method other than increasing property taxes. It is an unfair tax. The state tried to provide relief and instead created the door for local fleecing-Yes the need is obvious--the financing isn't.

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klimp21

Nov-14-13 7:05 PM

SICK OF YOU RICH S.O.B"S WANTING TO SPEND EVERYONE ELSES MONEY.WHY DONT YOU GO SOUTH AND STAY THERE.

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ndgirl40

Nov-14-13 2:15 PM

Muleskinner-- what is your solution? Knowing that right now we have 475 kids in portables and who knows how many more are in classrooms in locker rooms, gyms, storage rooms, basements, etc and in 5 years we're growing by 1000 more students, what do we do? Where do we put those kids? Voting no doesn't fix our problem, in fact, it will only make it worse and cost us more money in the long run. Overcrowding is not going away and building costs aren't getting cheaper. I think it's pretty clear that oil companies aren't paying for this, nor should they. So, what's the solution?

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ovomitlied

Nov-10-13 11:57 PM

Better yet.. All these kids have some type of screens.. Put the older kids on a 3 hour shift with all the teaching to be done on their computers..

Books on screens are the new wave.. why do they have to report to a building to get an assignment..

Want to get high tech then start with the schools..

Look at the polution saved by not driving.. look at the money saved by not building more buildings..

Home school kids do it, college kids do it.. maybe time for the school districts to think outside the box...

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ovomitlied

Nov-10-13 11:54 PM

I have a solution for over crowding but the District does not want to hear it.

Its called a two shift school.. Just like folks who work.. Many have two shifts some three shifts..

It would be so very very simple to put these kids on differant shifts.. Some early morning some afternoon and evening..

End of proble.. Would require another shift of teachers but it would not require new buildings..

Kids grow up and go to work and then they are required to work a night shift.. Why not put the lower grades on early morning and the older kids on the later hours..

Of course it would take some planning and some effort to arrange this and I suspect we would here a vilolent NO from the dostrict. It might disrupt their 9 to 5 routine and after all if we can just take from the taxpayer we won't need to work evenings as 70% of todays people do.

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concerned

Nov-10-13 10:45 PM

I wish people would separate the school district from their issues with the city government...You see the school taxes are part of our property taxes, which again for the 100th time I have said many will pay almost $1,000 a year before the bond issue....so you see yes this part of city issues......as for the city itself...a certain individual was asked 6 to 7 years ago would Minot have the problems these little communities around Minot were having then with housing, daycare and so forth, and this person said no....

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concerned

Nov-10-13 10:45 PM

I wish people would separate the school district from their issues with the city government...You see the school taxes are part of our property taxes, which again for the 100th time I have said many will pay almost $1,000 a year before the bond issue....so you see yes this part of city issues......as for the city itself...a certain individual was asked 6 to 7 years ago would Minot have the problems these little communities around Minot were having then with housing, daycare and so forth, and this person said no....

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Annie88

Nov-10-13 9:39 PM

thank you, ndsunflower!

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NDSunflower

Nov-10-13 9:20 PM

Annie88 - that was on their website under the frequently asked questions: "Will the District close any schools as part of this effort? No."

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NDSunflower

Nov-10-13 9:16 PM

I haven't received any circulars at my house either, but I have seen what they have posted on the school website... a lot of information on the needs of the district.

Nothing "urging me to vote 'yes'", but I will be voting YES all the way as Minot needs to move forward.

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Annie88

Nov-10-13 9:01 PM

Whats the plans for McKinley and Roosevelt? There's talk that the school board will close them if the bond issue passes. Is this the School Boards dirty little secret?? They both very good schools that are badly needed!

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Nancy1

Nov-10-13 5:21 PM

I wish people would separate the school district from their issues with the city government. And about 4 years ago the oil companies were asked if they would consider paying for the grade school that is still needed. They didn't. And if any of you can figure out how to demand of private businesses money for our school district, city etc go for it.

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muleskinner

Nov-10-13 3:44 PM

Mr. Hankla is working a public relations agenda to convince the voting public that a school improvements bond issue is the avenue for funding for the school system.

His mistake is not asking for monies from all and any oil revenue, be they from private corporations in the form of income, or from government sources of oil income from legislated revenue sources, i.e. the oil extraction tax.

The public relations agenda should consist of soliciting for money from oil companies and state gov revenue from oil extractions taxes, not from homeowners who are caught between oil growth and influx of people into the Minot area. It is not the fault of the homeowner nor is it his responsibility.

They need to ask for money from other sources, the property tax owner can't be the sole source.

I don't argue that the school system doesn't need new schools, improvements to make the system better, etc.

The argument begins with the attempt to bilk the homeowner. They don't care.

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Legend

Nov-10-13 3:30 PM

NDB & N1: There is nothing prohibiting the use of the oil impact tax money for schools and it is building in billions of $. Minot Govt. has a 60 year history of doing as it pleases despite the public vote. They fight outside ideas at any cost.NAWS was one great idea to get better quality and a higher volume of water but in their greed for the treatment plant, they caused years of delay. We may be the "armchair" voters but it is "our" money they want to cover their greedy ways. Vote NO.

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NoDakBoy

Nov-10-13 1:17 PM

I am sure if you would like a circular they would be available at any school. A visit to Washington Elementary might give you a chance to see the portables. If Sunnyside is closer beware of parking because there is none and depending on the time of day the streets are one way to lesson the chaos. Jim Hill may also have some. Beware of the 765 middle school students which is soon to grow to over 900 plus if something doesn't happen soon. There is no conspiracy, nobody is "Jonesin'", nobody is trying to stick it to anyone. Our kids need school buildings to sit in and it is as simple as that.

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muleskinner

Nov-10-13 12:43 PM

I am well aware of that. They never retire from the firm, though.

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Nancy1

Nov-10-13 12:36 PM

Mr Hankla is about 84 years old and has been retired for years. He was flooded and was bought out as his home sat on the river bank where permanent dikes are to be built. Mr. Backes is not as old but he, too, is retired. But even if they weren't - how would their law firm make money off school buildings being built?? I think that if any of you had another solution to the overcrowding in schools - which is very apparent on the grade school level and soon will reach into the other grade levels - you would run for school board or volunteer in some way. It is mighty easy to be an armchair critic with all the answers.

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muleskinner

Nov-10-13 12:00 PM

The letter campaign is ongoing and speaks volumes. Mr. Hankla is a lawyer and Mr. Backes is a lawyer, combined, they are half of the firm.

Seems that they are more interested in the money that can be procured via the tapped out taxpayer than they are worried about students not being adequately housed in Minot's schools.

In essence, they are doing it for the money, not for the children. They are talking their books, they are jonesin' for that money big time.

It is all becoming very suspect.

I do believe that the ACA is going to require municipalities and school districts to increase the contributions to health insurance. It is all becoming a big money game and nothing else.

Vote 'no', do it for the children and block the money game going on here.

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disgusted

Nov-10-13 11:55 AM

NoDakBoy, the only ones making up excuses is Vollmer and his followers. I hope the result is no and resounding at that.

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concerned

Nov-10-13 11:46 AM

Yes but in other states, the lottery monies go directly toward schools.....

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concerned

Nov-10-13 11:46 AM

In South Minot, no circulars received either...it must be North Minot because nothing is making their property taxes go up as they don't have commercial property to worry about...even before the bond some will pay more than $1,000 a more a year in property taxes. It's frustrating...

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NoDakBoy

Nov-10-13 11:31 AM

Bricks and mortar are NOT built with sales tax revenue, airline fees, or money from casinos or lottery tickets. They can't be built with oil revenue without a change in the state constitution AND FEDERAL Law. They are paid for with property taxes. These are rules every district has played by for over a century. A yes vote means we won't prolong the inevitable. A yes vote means construction costs won't drive up the price tag for buildings that INEVITABLY have to be built. A yes vote years ago to build an elem. school would have made all of this more palatable right now. A yes vote back then was before the flood, property values rising, influx of people, etc. A yes vote now will give 1000 students seats inside a school building by 2018. There are enough elementary students in portables to fill a 4-section elementary school right now. A yes vote will put them in a school building. The need is there. Stop making excuses and vote yes.

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disgusted

Nov-10-13 10:20 AM

muleskinner, do you live in or out of the flood plain? I only ask because we, who do live in the flood plain, have not received ONE circular. Has anyone else in the flood valley received these circulars? And, Mr. Hanlka, I do not consider it to be detailed planning, when Vollmer says give us $125 million and if we don't need it, we won't spend it.

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muleskinner

Nov-10-13 4:02 AM

I have received a healthy number of circulars from the school district in the mail urging me to vote 'yes'.

Too many. Save your money and your breath.

I do see private jets flying out of the airport, so it would be better to tax those individuals with that kind of money. They are using the airport, for one thing, so an increase in fees for use of the airport could be used to finance school costs.

The school district is asking for money from those who don't have it, unfortunately, so a 'no' vote is required. I don't have the money.

Evidently there are those who are fortunate enough to afford a private jet and if asking for money from them is too difficult to do, then the school district can go without.

A 'no' vote will save me money.

My water bill is double of what it once was, where does all that money go?

I have to vote 'no'.

Save your pennies, Minot. I have to and I have to save every penny I get.

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