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Council trims budget after public outcry

September 10, 2013

The Minot City Council lightened the proposed city tax burden on residents by 7 percent with revisions to the 2014 preliminary budget Monday....

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rickrod

Sep-12-13 8:32 AM

And by the way taxman5 my wife and myself also pay our taxes, but we don't sit around and cry about it all day.

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rickrod

Sep-12-13 8:29 AM

taxman5, You want 9 fulltime firefighters for 4 staions, your own words. That would mean 1 firefighter per station under the best situation, not to mention vacation time, and if someone gets sick, or would you outlaw time off?

Then we have certification of airport requirements that WOULD NEVER be met with your idea. So you don't want an airport?

And then we have a LARGE HOSPITAL, can Life Safety Code Requirement be met? NOPE

And why do we want to destroy one of the finest City Firefighting Department? because you don't want to pay taxes?

It sounds like you want to take Minot back to the horse and buggy days, why don't you just move out to the country?

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rickrod

Sep-12-13 8:29 AM

taxman5, You want 9 fulltime firefighters for 4 staions, your own words. That would mean 1 firefighter per station under the best situation, not to mention vacation time, and if someone gets sick, or would you outlaw time off?

Then we have certification of airport requirements that WOULD NEVER be met with your idea. So you don't want an airport?

And then we have a LARGE HOSPITAL, can Life Safety Code Requirement be met? NOPE

And why do we want to destroy one of the finest City Firefighting Department? because you don't want to pay taxes?

It sounds like you want to take Minot back to the horse and buggy days, why don't you just move out to the country?

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rickrod

Sep-12-13 7:52 AM

Taxman5, many other rules if they want airport. Like 3 minute response time. If they don't have a maned station there is no way to make the response time rules. Been there and have done it, have you?

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TAXMAN5

Sep-11-13 10:15 PM

@rickrod The thing with the airport is right now if Station 3 or AKA Airport station has 2 ARFF Truck and Engine 3 so if that had a call like at the Grand Hotel 1 Firefighter has to stay back at the station just in case of a plane emergency. Then theirs this Bismarck Airport does not use the City Fire Dept. for airport fire service. It contacted out to RURAL METRO FIRE SERVICES to cover Bismarck Airport.

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Nedragr

Sep-11-13 6:33 PM

So if I'm reading this right the City's portion of the property tax was going to rise $28 for a $200K house? With 12 months over the course of the billing cycle it breaks down to a mere $2.33/month and the council chambers were full of outcry?? Talk of going to a volunteer fire department?

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BeaverFan

Sep-11-13 9:58 AM

As the city grows, efficiency needs to come with it. It should take less staff per capita which will reduce costs per capita.

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rickrod

Sep-11-13 7:32 AM

taxman5, I don't agree with you, and do you really think we would have as good FD as we do now, if they go with a volunteer FD? it takes time to have volunteers respond, and time in a fire is critical. And i'm speaking as an x firefighter, mr insurance man. And what about FAA and the airport? would they buy off on a volunter FD. I don't think so.

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muleskinner

Sep-11-13 4:54 AM

Minot was once a very affordable place to live, now it is a constant din of traffic and increased costs that have made the town a hard place to live and work.

It is better to move.

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TAXMAN5

Sep-11-13 4:15 AM

@rickrod Wrong on the insurance will not got sky high the Minot Fire Rating by the ISO is a 4 or 3 it goes by 1-10. Their are only 56 Fire Dept. with a ISO 1 rating in the USA. 10 is bad. More to the point if you have paid and volunteers and if they do the training and have equipment and have good record they can keep that 4 or a 5 but very little change in insurance rate price. I know because I deal with these matters years a go as a insurance person. I know of a city in North Dakota that is 100% Volunteer and they added more men and equipment and lowered their ISO rating from a 7 to a 5 and one of my clients save $110 a year.

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dvalley

Sep-10-13 10:22 PM

I am personally fine with the investment in infrastructure. HOWEVER... when the city is giving MY tax dollars to private organizations i begin to have a problem with it. Also when this city adds 30-40 positions and 2 new taxes EVERY year i have a problem with it as well. I know things must keep up with the expanding times. But spend OUR money wisely.

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rickrod

Sep-10-13 7:26 PM

Taxman5, if we go to a Volunteer FD then are house insurance will go right through the roof. did you know insurance rates are based on the type of fire service a community has. So will you be the 1st one crying about your insurance rate? I say layoff all the secretarys, every manager in the city has one, and why are we spending big bucks for a x military guy to sit in washington dc and do nothing? the base can stand on its own (i think he gets 200,000),maybe we should stop giving money to other citys to build a company from magic funds, how about no money to seniors programs, and we should have a city tax on gas/diesel for any vehicle over 2 tons, they wreck the roads.

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concerned

Sep-10-13 6:58 PM

I think it's fair enough when some people's property taxes are going up because the horrible property valuations so that's more than $600 for some people. How does a house almost triple in value in less than 6 years? In addition, this school bond goes through that's another $400 or more for these same people...Now how fair is that besides the city portion.....just don't get it.....

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citizen24

Sep-10-13 1:00 PM

hey kayemb....we are gonna get a vote on that. I will vote no for increasing taxes for new schools. just my opinion. as it turns out with last nights proposal, it would seem the tax rate is dropping off by about 12% for the city's share. Sounds like the city only gets about 26% of the prop tax. The real spenders are the schools.

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KayeMB

Sep-10-13 11:05 AM

What about the bond issue for the schools--isn't that aiming to increase property taxes as well?? Double whammy

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Because

Sep-10-13 10:36 AM

So tired of hearing how the poor people here are taxed to death. We are like 9th or 10th in the tax on our property taxes. Be mad at the welfare and free loader crowd, they are the big consumer of all government services, and don't pay property tax because they don't own any property. Keep jacking the sales tax, at least they have to pay that. This city has ignored the need to raise taxes with the times for a very long time and that neglect is biting them in the back side as everything deteriorates.

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Sundevil

Sep-10-13 10:10 AM

Thank you citizen24. Its getting extremely annoying that people will cry out about local taxes without comparing them to surrounding areas. Bismarck's are going up to cover new schools. There is an article on the Grand Forks Herald homepage about how their property taxes are increasing 21.6%, on top of their already high property taxes and land valuations.

These two cities are seeing those major increases and they aren't having to deal with nearly the amount of development and required investment Minot is.

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citizen24

Sep-10-13 7:33 AM

Hey socialism. You got that wrong. Thats talking about the city portion and they didn't lower their mill levy as much as Minot did last night. And those folks voted for for new school tax which kicks in this December. Avg home in bismk going up about 600 BUCKS for school taxes. Minot will be way cheaper than bismk because of that. Check it out.

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citizen24

Sep-10-13 7:29 AM

It was amazing to hear a public that didn't realize their own confusion. A teacher getting up to protest prop tax increases? THE SCHOOL HAS ALWAYS GOT THE BIGGEST PORTION. SHE GETS HER RAISE BY WHACKING US. Silly. And I guess crowd wanted police and fire to get their raise without a tax increase? STUPID.

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socialismsucks

Sep-10-13 7:25 AM

headline in the bismarck paper that we will never see in the minot paper. "Property taxes drop in Bismarck" no wonder so many of my customers and friends have moved to bismarck already.

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citizen24

Sep-10-13 7:23 AM

It was amazing to hear a public that didn't realize their own confusion. A teacher getting up to protest prop tax increases? THE SCHOOL HAS ALWAYS GOT THE BIGGEST PORTION. SHE GETS HER RAISE BY WHACKING US. Silly. And I guess crowd wanted police and fire to get their raise without a tax increase? STUPID.

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socialismsucks

Sep-10-13 7:13 AM

Why Not Minot? Insane property tax rates for one reason. we're 'only' tied for the highest sales tax rate in the state - i'm sure the council is chomping at the bit waiting for some other city to go to 8% sales tax first. keep shoving it to us locally tho in the interest of 'fairness.'

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TAXMAN5

Sep-10-13 5:41 AM

Sorry I try to put the RURAL METRO website but they ******/// blanked it out

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TAXMAN5

Sep-10-13 5:39 AM

I asked many people about the city budget and they had many thing to say on how to trim the budget one is to cut the Fire Dept. from full paid to 9 paid fireman and the rest will be Volunteer or have RURAL METRO FIRE SERVICE take over the fire service for the city and I am not referring to Minot Rural. Rural metro is a nation wide Fire and EMS service were you have to have paid subscription to get protection. *****://****ruralmetrofire****/ the other budget trimming is the trash pick up have someone else take our trash other than the city. Then Cut staff from full time to part time in Public works, streets, traffic and keep the city cars until the wheels fall off or engine blows. I just not a tax man I am a saving man too. Some may agree or disagree with me but that's the way will can save.

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