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Baucus's shocking comment

April 23, 2013

It was certainly a bit shocking last week to hear Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., describe the ongoing implementation of the nation’s new health care bill as a “train wreck....

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locomotive

May-02-13 12:19 PM

At least the GOP didn't vote to "mandate" buying insurance. That's a choice I don't get to make any longer. We've paid 100% of our healthcare needs for years, with no insurance, as it was too expensive.

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MarkHighwater

Apr-28-13 2:21 AM

I like the GOP healthcare plan...if you get sick..better hope you die fast ! ! !

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MarkHighwater

Apr-28-13 2:20 AM

yes healthcare or sickcare is a train wreck in this country...spending twice the amount of any other country for an inferior product...fat cat insurance agents,doctors and big pharma are getting fatter while people suffer from fraud and abuse and GREED! ! !

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centerfield

Apr-25-13 12:36 PM

Nothing will change until we get a Supreme court that makes decisions based on the law and not their political views. Nothing will change until corporations become delisted from the people category. McConnell is so afraid of the tea party, he probably has his shorts full of brown all the time. Plus, his behavior and views are accepted by the far right, so why should he change. Will I take the old guard without the money verses the wild, nutty rookies who jeopardize our credit rating, give gifts to the rich, take food and services from the poor, and believe they are doing a service to the country. Yep, I would. Their decisions will continue to destroy the country.

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Worldview

Apr-25-13 12:08 PM

Centerfield - Term Limits? Yes Ted Cruz is an idiot. But does McConnell and Reid suit you? I would like to see a congress that is a bit more desiring of doing the best they can for their voters. Not the Guys who provide the multimillion dollar campaign contributions. Long time congressional folks will always have more of them, and it skewers good decisions that would otherwise not be based on your dollar contribution for your reelection. Looking for folks who care, and money corrupts, absolutely. Comment? THanks

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 6:14 PM

Guess my news that everyone was going to die gave Worldview a heart attackk. He never replied..

Anyone else o0ut there want to tell me if they think they will never die? never grow old? Just asking who the "walk on water people are in the blogs"?

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locomotive

Apr-24-13 4:07 PM

MT politics look an awful lot like ND politics.

Conrad, Dorgan and Pomeroy all served in state office before going national, as did Hoeven, Heitkamp and Cramer.

Name recognition works.

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locomotive

Apr-24-13 4:05 PM

Here's something Shakespearean in regards to billdoesnt telling us we're all going to kick the bucket some time....

"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player

That struts and frets his hour upon the stage

And then is heard no more: it is a tale

Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

Signifying nothing."

Looking forward to Obamacare myself...not.

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centerfield

Apr-24-13 3:48 PM

You know nothing about Montana politics. It was time for Baucus to go but it was politically the time. Schweitzer was very popular and he will still be when he wins in a year and a half. Had Baucus run, it would have been eight years of political separation for Schweitzer. So, out with Max and in with Brian. Now, lets stretch this out. A democratic governor is now also in office and he will serve two terms. Testor will run one more time and he will retire after 18 years. Then, guess what? The ex-governor will sit for two years and run for Testor's seat, which he will win. As to the health care, I will take it. After years of giving billions of dollars to the pharma's and health insurance companies, it is about time. What do you think all the money is being spent on by the industry. Their golden cow is about the be taken out. More money for the republicans and more fighting health care.

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centerfield

Apr-24-13 3:41 PM

But, in the end, the Republicans did little or nothing but blame others. It is almost as if the lack of WMD's in Iraq was someone elses fault. Get real and look at the stupidity of the REpublican party. Now, as to term limits. Nope, don't want them. We had better legislation with the good old boys. At least when they are scared out of their short of the right wing/tea party candidates. Is there any more ignorant of the process than Senator Cruz of Texas? The new people in the house have no idea of how a government runs. A prime example was the holdout on the Debt ceiling when it was expenditures that they had already made. What did the US get? A lower credit rating. Thanks bunches to the ignorant rookie republican house members and their veteran leadership who don't have the kahones to lead. We have had five years of obstruction and finger pointing from the right wing. We are getting no where and if the wingers keep it up, they will truly not exist.

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 3:41 PM

Yup Centerfield Obamacare is Yours and Obama's.. Nice try to try to blame it on the Republicans.. I for one am very glad Obama got the 2nd term so he could live thru the nightmare he has created.. Couldn't happen to a better toad..

Now your all out crying the Republicans won';t help us.. So sorry You can find Sympathy between sex and syphilis in the dictionary but propbably noe from the Republcans..

Whoa is me.. Now we have to do the work by ourselves.. But then when it fails you can blame the Republicans becasue they didnt lend a hand to get it up and running and its becoming apparent the Dems don't have the brains to do it.. Poor Max.. HasBeen!

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centerfield

Apr-24-13 3:33 PM

Is there anyone on the blog who clings to the Rush Limbaugh, Fox news, talking points more than billdoesn'tevergetit? Well, other than Dusty. All of the western civilized nations have government health care and it costs are almost half of what the US spends. Their health rating and longevity ratings are far superior to the US. But, billdoesnt will rant on about health care and the process without knowing what he is talking about. I am surprise you did not bring up death panels or Acorn. The Republicans for five years have done nothing in congress. They have stated repeatedly on EVERY issue that they want their program only. It did not matter whether it was a tax issue, health care, medicare, social security, or whatever. There are almost four hundred amendments/inserts to the health bill directly from the REpublican party. In addition, they spent month/months/months of private debate on the issue. They spent one full day on television discussing the issue.

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 1:01 PM

My 20ish age grandsons use the word Dude..

Kinda tells your age doesnt it..

Worldview can you honestly think you will never die???

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 1:00 PM

So Worldview In not agreeing with me I guess you are one of those people who thinks they will never get old and that you will get out of this world alive..

Boy are you in for a big surprise..

just saying... Everyone on here is going to die.. Its a fact..lets see you dispute that..

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Worldview

Apr-24-13 12:30 PM

Not Bill Garr?

""""One thing that really please me today is the fact that every person on the blogs will GET OLD or Die trying.

That means everyone who likes Obamacare will get to go thru the medicare process and the boards descsions as to when they have spent enough on you and you are no longer of value."""

Dude - I made a mistake. With diarrhea like this we cannot have a conversation. Sorry, but my mistake.

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Worldview

Apr-24-13 12:26 PM

billldoesntgetit: Not Bill Garr - I am glad we reached a consensus on term limits, if Nothing Else.

I would rather pursue areas of agreement than areas of disagreement. Small consolation but more important than a total disagreement is what I would like to think.

2 terms for Senators, 3 for Congressmen? What Say?

Thanks for your answer. Lets enlarge the conversation to the areas we agree and see if we can motivate our fellow folks towards those areas where we can find agreement. tks

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 12:05 PM

One thing that really please me today is the fact that every person on the blogs will GET OLD or Die trying.

That means everyone who likes Obamacare will get to go thru the medicare process and the boards descsions as to when they have spent enough on you and you are no longer of value.

Obama said it himself..told the women her mother shoyuld not get surgery at 95 but rather just give her medication to make her comfortable.. Thats what you all will be faced with..

Happy Getting Old folks!!!!!

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 12:03 PM

Yes Term Limits on all offices.. These 70 80 and 90 year old folks should be forbidden from even running for reelection.. That includes Hillary..

The SOBS that show up in walkers and in wheelchairs are so drugged up they don't have a clue what they are voting on.

Drug tests and competency tests for every member of Congress and the Senate AND Obama and Biden!!!

See Obama is not willing to recognize the bombers are Muslim.. Can't run down one of his own can he???

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 11:59 AM

It seems the Republicans are the only ones capable of figuring out what this Obamacare wikll do to medicare.

IPAB is a congressionally approved, independent body that will act once Medicare spending exceeds certain limits, This group is appointed (not elected) as mechanism above the daily political fray, but also a necessity for the sake of the entire health care industry.

“IPAB is set up to provide a backstop against interest-group pressure on the Congress that makes it difficult to adopt cost-containment measures

Any of you libs have any idea about what cost containment is?

I suspect not.. propbably don't even know what the big words mean..

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Worldview

Apr-24-13 11:57 AM

Is that like the 80 to 90 percent who think we should be doing background gun sales on gun shows and interne/and classified the same as at the store? You know - fairness to the brick and mortar guys.

Oh - and do you Think Term Limits is a good idea? Earlier question I know but you being an astute observer of politics I figured you had a thought even though you did not answer earlier?

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 11:53 AM

progressive liberal your an out and out liar. The Republicans were willing to deal with health care costs..however they were shut out of the meetings so now that you have this plan its all your baby.

No reason to blame the Republicans.. Its called Obamacare for a very definite reason.

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-24-13 11:51 AM

Worldview The Republicans and over 60% of America has been against ACA since its birth.. 60% are still against it.

This is a Democratic baby hatched up in their minds. They should NWEVER be asking someone else to come in and fix what they started..

If you think the Republicans should bail them out then my guess is you think wrong.

ACA is like the Tucker car company its nothing more then a scam to make Insurance companies wealthier and to get Obama re elected.

Obama gave birth to it now he should be responsible and educate it. Not the Republicans job to come in and baby sit for the Monster Obama created.

If you give birth to an idea be prepared to take it to the finish line. Its your idea, your plan and your goal.

Trying to make it someone else's job to finish what you started is just plain asinine

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ProgressiveLiberal

Apr-24-13 11:29 AM

Republicans don't think anything was wrong with how healthcare was, didn’t think that anything needed to be fixed and didn't have any suggestions on how to control the spiraling cost of healthcare.

They still have absolutely no idea.

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Worldview

Apr-24-13 8:36 AM

The old death panels. Love nostalgia..

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Worldview

Apr-24-13 8:32 AM

Not sure on that one, and am skeptical of its accuracy. However ACA is not ready for prime time, if that is your question.. Only problem is no one is working together to resolve. The republicans are only working to defund, not make it right or better. In my opinion they could resolve this if they were not as concerened about thier next election or thier next corporate or rich man donation for it..

Do you agree?

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