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Obama should OK Keystone

February 23, 2013

Perhaps President Barack Obama should worry more about the American people than about radical environmentalists who have bullied him during his first four years, never satisfied with his own......

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EarlyBird

Feb-23-13 7:03 AM

I seriously wonder if the folks who own the oil minerals in Texas and Oklahoma want Canadian oil down there. My business sense says they would like to sell their domestic oil and it is much closer.

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muleskinner

Feb-23-13 7:44 AM

He'd ok a Keystone golf course.

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JackAaah

Feb-23-13 8:54 AM

I see MDN got rid of lorexx while I was in my koolaid stupor....doesn't MDN realize diversity is our future? For the children?

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EarlyBird

Feb-23-13 9:23 AM

After very little research it looks like it's the same people who own the oil and mineral rights in Canada and the USA. So my business sense failed me on this one for awhile. The pipeline is unstoppable.

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centerfield

Feb-23-13 9:28 AM

So, how about an answer to some questions for you mental giants of the far right. Why would you want a pipeline running across the entire US after reviewing the many problems with pipeline spills from the Canadians? Why would you want such toxic and dirty oil running across the US when it is almost impossible to clean up once there is a spill? Ah, but here is another big question: Why is Canada building rail facilities to ship Bakken crude to Canada to refine but do not want to refine their dirty crude? Drive out to Berthold and view their facility. It is going to push upwards of 300 thousand plus BPD of Bakken to Canada.

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centerfield

Feb-23-13 9:38 AM

Let us continue: The Canadians also are planning a facility up by Crosby to ship Bakken to Canada as well. So, here is the question. Why export pure Bakken crude to Canada and then ship almost equal amounts of tar sand crude to Texas. There has to be a reason. How about this. Canada does not want to refine their cheaper dirty crude because of the many problems associated with that refining. So, just as Canadaian mining companies have done for years in Montana, Colorado, Wyoming, Nevada, and other states. Mine the land, destroy the land, then head back to Canada while declaring bankruptcy so that the US taxpayer has to pay for the cleanup. Oh, and for the MDN, has the Nebraska legislature approved the route? I believe they have to give their approval and not just the governor.

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centerfield

Feb-23-13 9:47 AM

Here is another theory for you wingers. Look at gas prices. Going up and fast. Supply and demand? Nope. High oil prices? Some, but they have been this high before without the huge increase in gas prices. How about manipulation of the market so there is pressure on Obama to approve the XL. Another factoid from the bloggers: The Koch brothers and their company's in Oklahoma will make billions on this venture and they don't care about anything but money. Lefty is correct in his blog.

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EarlyBird

Feb-23-13 10:04 AM

I heard gas was low for awhile because they blended the E-85 product with it.

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KneeAwn

Feb-23-13 10:22 AM

Is the pipeline really going to lower our gas prices?? I am sure it will line the pocketbooks of the oil barons even more.....ps they always have a built in excuse to hike our prices at the pump

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muleskinner

Feb-23-13 10:28 AM

The Minot Daily has an innate propensity to bash Obama every day. I do recommend that they continue and do it non-stop, 24/7.

The MDN knows how much of a pinhead he really is.

However, the MDN wants President Obama to follow their advice and ok the Keystone Cop pipeline.

You can't criticize and then expect somebody to do what you want them to do.

As for the pipeline:

It is just jobs program, the pipeline really isn't necessary and I doubt that Bakken oil will enter the pipeline unless it is discounted heavily. The BNSF can continue to carry the load and the oil is still going to find a market. Bakken oil doesn't need the pipeline, the Keystone XL needs Bakken oil.

Bakken oil will do fine without the Keystone XL and America will do even better without Obama.

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locomotive

Feb-23-13 10:45 AM

Let's think about this too. If we're exporting so much, like to China for example, should one think it has something to do with our enormous debt to the Chinese?

"We gave you money, now you give us oil" or something like that.

And, Veritas is right, one can't find much information about anything the powers-that-be are up to.

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locomotive

Feb-23-13 10:46 AM

"can't cut the mustard for the trees"

Nice mixed metaphor, that.

:-)

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EarlyBird

Feb-23-13 10:51 AM

You are all cracking me up, please pass the gas.

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muleskinner

Feb-23-13 12:31 PM

Well, then, pinhead maybe, but without a doubt, lunkhead, applies.

For Obama that is.

And stop calling me by your family name.

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muleskinner

Feb-23-13 12:44 PM

How about the Canadians up north oppose a pipeline to the British Columbia coast line for environmental reasons, and wants the oil to travel to the US so we have to put up with their hard to market product? Why don't the Canadians want to transport their oil over to Montreal or Ottawa?

There's pipelines in Canada too.

Because it is low grade oil that is difficult to refine and they would rather have Brent Sea crude because it is high grade oil like Louisiana sweet crude.

The Keystone XL is not a compromise, it is oil dumping.

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muleskinner

Feb-23-13 1:46 PM

What country has heavy sour oil?

It has trouble marketing its oil and has to look for buyers.

a) Iran

b) Iran

c) Iran

D) Iran

You can't answer wrong.

What country has tar sand oil that seems to be a wrong choice in oil extraction?

a) Canada

b) first answer

c) second answer

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locomotive

Feb-23-13 2:00 PM

I recall a fine afternoon recently where I was accused of being a "censor" after one of the lefties (was it PJ?) got bumped. No, it wasn't me.

That "report abuse" thing does go both ways, doesn't it, billgrr?

And "rounding up the usual suspects" always includes a charge of racism.

Aaah, there's something to be said for sameness...

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OldCat

Feb-23-13 5:09 PM

Once a dog always a dog--like a bull dog with the same Obama bashing ---credit for persistence only. The more I hear in opposition to the pipeline-the more I question its value to America.

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muleskinner

Feb-24-13 9:14 AM

Americans,as time goes by, are going to become increasingly angry with President Obama. America's very own Stalin, the new and improved kind, the kind of Stalin Stalin would have loved to have been himself.

Americans got luckier than the Russians this time around.

It will take a little time, but the anger is going to finally materialize and manifest itself like never before. Then Americans will take to the streets; I can see it, and I don't need no stinking crystal ball.

President Obama promoted the drone program, he is responsible for its deployment and the lives that have been lost.

Drone XL got a big 'A-Ok' from Obama. Stalin would be very proud of President Obama.

One death is a tragedy, a million, a statistic said Joe Stalin.

ObaMao is in complete agreement with comrade Joe.

America is now a gulag. Take a look, tell me what you see. A gulag with drones flying above at all times is what I see.

A pipeline is the least of my worries.

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WorriedAmerican

Feb-24-13 10:46 AM

lorexxx is now billdoesntgetit

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muleskinner

Feb-24-13 11:08 AM

Pardon me, but I am not the one in charge. I am not borrowing 8 trillion dollars in 4 years and forcing somebody else to pay for it all. It wasn't me. It is better to be part of the solution.

Go ahead, shoot the messenger.

I won't have to pay for the feds profligacy, I ain't gonna make it to pay for it all. It'll take a thousand years to pay for all of the spending done over the past 13 years.

Republicans and Democrats alike, ain't no difference there.

Wall Street is fat and happy with it. To them, Obama is their Savior and allows them to do 'God's work'. Anyhow, Lloyd Blankfein said he does God's work. OK with Obama.

You? What's in it for you? Drones.

JP Morgan can lose 6 billion in losses and the CEO is not fired, pay is cut to 11 million bucks. Doing God's work pays.

That's because Wall Street makes 500 times more than any other schmuck out there. All with Obama's blessing.

You're being left out in the cold.

Welcome to Siberia.

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centerfield

Feb-24-13 11:24 AM

Let us go back to the topic, which is the XL pipeline. I have not seen any answers on why Canada would import upwards of 300-400 thousand plus BPD of Bakken crude(which is more expensive than Tar sand crude) and then send 600 thousand plus BPD of tar sand crude out of the country. Would it not be more feasible for them to refine their own cheaper crude? well, maybe it is because of all the problems with refining it. It will not help the US fuel supply. It is going to China. It is a boondoggle for the Koch brothers and Dutch Shell. oh, and the jobs thingy!!! about 5000 jobs to build it for three years. Not 20,000. Less than a thousand to maintain it. No, to the pipeline.

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centerfield

Feb-24-13 11:29 AM

Muleskinner: One quick question. If Wall street is so happy with Obama, why did they put their campaign money this year with Romney? Wall street backs Republicans more and wants less regulation. That is what Repubs have to offer. Special favors and less regulation.

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muleskinner

Feb-24-13 11:58 AM

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire, endorsed Obama.

New Jersey Governor Christie endorsed Obama. He's a Republican. A week before, Christie said Obama couldn't lead an army of ants to a picnic. A week later, he was endorsing him. He knew who was in charge of the cookie jar.

Billionaires and Republicans endorsed Obama. Easy to become a hypocrite.

'Truth is Lies' said Eric Blair, aka, George Orwell. Ignorance is Strength

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer

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namexxx

Feb-24-13 12:21 PM

@locomotive (and all his other screen names)

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"rounding up the usual suspects always includes a charge of racism."

.

Racism would at least require a point of view. The hate speech on here is tantamount to middle schooler graffiti written by ignorant old men with too much time on their hands.

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