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Preserving N.D.’s land

January 20, 2013

Myron Hanson, Souris; Troy Coons, Donnybrook; Galen Peterson, Maxbass; Bob Grant, Berthold As oil and gas facilities are built in our state, we must ensure that further permanent harm to our......

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-27-13 11:15 AM

h4c I was responding to a response from: JackAaah Jan-24-13 8:36 AM Agree | Disagree

...from SF paper - """Federal officials have decided to let a proposed southeastern Minnesota wind farm pursue a permit that would allow for accidental deaths and injuries of bald eagles.

If you cannot keep up! Shut up!

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MythRobme

Jan-26-13 2:04 PM

Ronny should heed her own advice.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-26-13 10:38 AM

How does coal mining affect wildlife? Answer: Before mining can begin, the land is cleared. The first issue is deforestation. Deforestation immediately destroys wildlife habitats. As the land is cleared and low bushes and vegetation burned and destroyed, wildlife either moves on or dies.

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locomotive

Jan-26-13 9:21 AM

A more forword thinking individual they couldn't find, Jack...

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JackAaah

Jan-26-13 8:37 AM

loco, my mission now is to try to help others move forword, the same way I am moving forword in my Democrat Party. More of a co-mission, to my receiving gifts...

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locomotive

Jan-25-13 5:44 PM

"...we CANNOT move forword if even one duck dies in a fossil fuel pit, but we can afford to lose bald eagles that are our national symbol. That is just progress...ivism."

Thanks for my LOL moment today, Jack.

Happy weekend to you, at the Hillsboro free-lunch counter, swilling lime kool-aid and downing green peas.

:-)

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-25-13 11:33 AM

Comunities & individual farmers in Minnesota are actually purchasing wind generators in order to generate additonal income.

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JackAaah

Jan-24-13 5:32 PM

WA - you ARE so right. Like you, I agree that there should not be ONE of God's critters that die from dirty oil. But I do feel that God did bring the Bald Eagle back from extinction, and now have burgeoning populations so that we CAN build these wind farms......and without harming the overall population. We definitely can afford to lose a number of eagles a year so that we can move forword with wind energy.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-24-13 3:02 PM

JackAaah what about the BP gulf tragedy or the money spent and the environmental damage done by the Exxon Valdez spill? Isn't wind power safer,cleaner and will never run out?

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JackAaah

Jan-24-13 11:17 AM

WA - I'm re-iterating that we CANNOT move forword if even one duck dies in a fossil fuel pit, but we can afford to lose bald eagles that are our national symbol. That is just progress...ivism. We do have to set our priorities...

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-24-13 9:58 AM

One thing about the republicans with all that "wind" we should enough energy for years to come! They could keep those 48 turbines turning for years! ;-)

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-24-13 9:55 AM

How much CO2 emissions does a Wind Farm generate?

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-24-13 9:53 AM

The "worst-case scenario" is that eight to 15 bald eagles per year would die as a result of the 48-turbine project! This compares to what, the number of eagles that die of lightning strikes, shot or hit by vehicles?

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JackAaah

Jan-24-13 8:36 AM

...from SF paper - """Federal officials have decided to let a proposed southeastern Minnesota wind farm pursue a permit that would allow for accidental deaths and injuries of bald eagles.

The worst-case scenario is that eight to 15 bald eagles per year would die as a result of the 48-turbine project New Era Wind Farm near Red Wing, the Fish and Wildlife Service said in a letter to state regulators Wednesday. Hundreds of thousands of birds die each year while flying through wind farms nationwide."""

Now that is thinking and regulations that DO move our country forword.....

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-23-13 12:31 PM

Yes, you really got to watch out for wind spillage with the wind power plants. Wind polution is very hard to see and clean up! ;-)

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locomotive

Jan-22-13 8:24 PM

Plus, wind power has had huge government subsidies, tax credits, what-have-you incentives in order to get into the market in the first place.

The square footage in land necessary for wind turbines is phenomenal, compared to drilling pads or nuclear sites or some hydroelectrics.

I think there are drawbacks to every energy source. That stated, initial costs, maintenance, true energy output, and reclamation should all be carefully considered before throwing support of any kind, especially federal dollars, behind a particular energy industry.

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muleskinner

Jan-22-13 2:41 PM

You have to google 'Idaho Power sues Idaho Wind' and 'Idaho news sources' and you will find plenty of articles.

The Minot Daily does not allow links.

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Missy1

Jan-22-13 1:59 PM

Having witnessed every part of leasing, pads being built close to the main roads and 3 to 4 wells on one pad. Also how clean they keep the sites, usually alot nicer and kepted up than Home owners yards or Farmsteads. I have no problem with them drilling.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-22-13 12:14 PM

muleskinner do you have any source to back up your claim?

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muleskinner

Jan-22-13 10:45 AM

Wind power raises your electric rates. Power companies are forced to buy wind power at higher rates when there is plenty of electricity. Power companies are suing wind power to protect consumers. Idaho Power sued Idaho Wind for that reason.

In short, it hurts the consumer.

Do you want to buy power at x dollars or 2x dollars? Wind power forces you to buy the power at 2x dollars and sell at x dollars.

Wind power costs too much and has no real benefit. The consumer pays, to their loss.

Oil is going to beat wind any day of the week, hands down. No competition.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-22-13 10:09 AM

Thats RIGHT don't worry about the legacy we leave behind for the next generations to follow. Lets just enjoy the prosperity of the moment now, and let them deal with the aftermath later thats their problem.

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muleskinner

Jan-22-13 9:16 AM

I wouldn't worry about the oil companies doing that much damage to the land in North Dakota.

It is the wind power interests that are doing the most damage and are definitely on the wrong path of preserving North Dakota's land.

Wind also prevents other resources from being developed fully.

It has to stop. Wind power is a chimera. A very bad investment.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-21-13 10:24 PM

Better save some of that oil lease money or oil check money. You may need it later to hire high priced attornies to sue the oil companies when they pull out later!

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