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NSA knows how many times you've ordered pizza this month

June 8, 2013 - Andrea Johnson
Well, our fine National Security Agency and Verizon have given me one more reason (not that I needed any more) to fear for our civil liberties.

Thanks to the London-based Guardian newspaper, the general public now knows that the NSA has been mining data about all of our cell phone usage for at least the past seven years. Somewhere in its files, the government has a record of every call you made to Domino's, every call you made to your mother or best friend or lawyer or boss. They know what phone you used to call them and how long each conversation was. I suppose it's small comfort that the NSA is apparently most interested in the phone conversations of suspicious foreigners and probably hasn't even bothered to look into why you have been ordering so much pizza from Domino's.

This latest egregious attack on our civil liberties is perfectly legal under the Patriot Act. It was done with the knowledge of every member of Congress and with court permission. However, no public debate was ever held and the public was never informed just what the NSA was up to. I have a problem with that. I also have a problem with many provisions of the Patriot Act, the sweeping legislation passed after 9/11. The legislation allows for "sneak and peek" warrants permitting law enforcement to break into your home without your knowledge, look around to see if there's anything there, and then use what they saw to obtain a traditional search warrant. The Patriot Act also gave the government the right to snoop through your library check-out records. It also allows law enforcement to obtain roving wire taps, which greatly expanded law enforcement's ability to spy on your phone use, since a surveillance court order need not specify all common carriers and third parties.

President Obama seems to believe that all of this is necessary to protect the country and that national security must be balanced with privacy. However, if the government keeps encroaching on our civil liberties in this way, just what does it think will be left of our freedoms to protect?

One of the greatest dangers is that all of this surveillance will result in people being afraid to exercise their right to freedom of assembly, freedom of speech and freedom of association. I remember the first time that fear of the government caused me to exercise self-censorship. During the first Gulf War, when I was in college and on the fringes of what passed for the anti-war movement, I decided against going to a war protest that had been planned downtown. My college roommate, who had relatives who had reason to know, had told me that the FBI would be at that protest and would be taking pictures and probably writing down the names of every college student there holding a picket sign. If I showed up there, she implied, I would probably have my very own FBI file and it might even prevent me from getting a government job someday. Granted, half of what she told me was probably sheer paranoia and I might have gone anyway if I had felt more strongly about the war, but fear still caused me to hold my tongue. How much more damage will fear of the government do to potential dissenters and whistle blowers, now that they know they have real reason to fear?

Already, there are signs that people are practicing self-censorship following the revelation last month that the Obama administration had subpoenaed phone records from news reporters in a bid to find who in the administration was leaking information. Associated Press reporters have said that sources are afraid to talk to the press, fearing reprisals. This likely pleases the Obama Administration, but it should most definitely not please anyone who cares about freedom or where this nation is headed.

 
 

Article Comments

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locomotive

Jun-15-13 10:40 PM

willgrr, if it was wrong of others to say that to you (and perhaps it was, being the Patriot Act principles were NOT welcomed by all Republicans), then it's wrong of you to say that to others, coincidentally at a time when a Democrat president (and/or his administration) is using the Patriot Act's egregious principles in his own way.

Let's say it this way: if something's wrong, it's wrong, no matter if a Republican or a Democrat enacts it. Could we agree on that?

AndreaJohnson

Jun-14-13 6:11 PM

I find it interesting that you seem to have so little outrage about what was revealed by Ed Snowden's leak. It's relevant now because we know the extent of the intrusion. If the wrong course has been followed for over a decade, perhaps there's still time to right it and put some restraints on what the government can do here.

namexxx

Jun-14-13 5:07 PM

Delayed outrage is like pulling an alarm long after the fire's gone out.

AndreaJohnson

Jun-14-13 11:16 AM

Yes, willgarr, we are all well aware that the Patriot Act has been in effect for over a decade. I've been saying that is should be amended since it was passed. Just because something has been going on for a long time doesn't mean it's right or moral. The government appears to me to be violating the fourth amendment. Laws need to be updated to protect the privacy rights of Americans.

AndreaJohnson

Jun-13-13 4:24 PM

How about your private e-mails to friends and family? How about Facebook postings that you have restricted to "friends" only? There's a certain expectation of privacy there.

In the case of NSA and Verizon, we have a government agency snooping into who you called, what time you called, and where you called from. That's information that is NOT available to your general advertiser and that you have not freely volunteered. It can also be used to put together a potentially damaging dossier, including your associates, your political beliefs, events you have attended, etc. That sort of thing ought to require probable cause and a warrant.

namexxx

Jun-13-13 11:23 AM

It's not "spying" if you happily plaster your personal information all over Facebook. It's called simply, "reading."

locomotive

Jun-12-13 4:45 PM

"The issue is clandestine surveillance of 314 million Americans by the federal government."

Yes, Andrea, big bro is watching, in spite of the ability for dunderheads to broadcast all their personals.

Now for those who aren't providing the free show, does our gov't have the right to data mine your phone/internet activity? For *whatever* reason? At what point will the gov't say "OK, we know enough about you, you're not a threat with your pizza purchases and phone calls 3x a week to Mom?"

Guess what? No amount of information will ever be enough. A little look at the history of this world's governments of the past and present should tell us volumes. And with our gov't, we have an "ethics in technology" scenario on steroids.

It's not paranoia when they're spying on you, is it? (Sorry, couldn't resist...)

locomotive

Jun-12-13 4:31 PM

Andrea said: "Rand Paul has introduced legislation called "The Fourth Amendment Preservation and Protection Act of 2013" that would require the government to establish probable cause and obtain a warrant before mining this type of information from phone records."

Agreed. If our nation is one of laws, then presumably there shouldn't be a problem with the requirement of establishing probable cause and obtaining a warrant. It is one of our nation's great civil liberties, one hallmark of our unique form of government.

Andrea also said: "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." I absolutely agree with that too. :-)

AndreaJohnson

Jun-12-13 1:47 PM

And the question is whether they are justified in turning over that information en masse. I say they should not, not without establishing probable cause and getting a warrant from a court and that a public debate over this program should be held.

namexxx

Jun-12-13 1:29 PM

Breaking News!

AT&T, Verizon, Google and FaceBook already collect your electronic data!

One man's surveillance data is another man's phone bill.

AndreaJohnson

Jun-12-13 12:49 PM

No one is going to live like the Amish, nor should they have to. The issue is clandestine surveillance of 314 million Americans by the federal government.

namexxx

Jun-12-13 10:28 AM

@icart68

Exactly! Brilliantly stated!

If you're so concerned about privacy . . . stop broadcasting your every move.

The claim that one can't live without personal phone and internet use is patently false and utterly ridiculous. Poor folks live without it. The Amish and other groups live without it.

billldoesntgetit

Jun-12-13 8:44 AM

1st Amendment - right to free speech curtailed for those required to cooperate with National Security Letters but forbidden without due process from speaking about it.

4th Amendment - Millions of people subjected to unreasonable search without even being suspected of a crime, much less in most cases warrants being sought (and the warrants that were issued were not valid in their scope or process)

5th Amendment - Millions deprived of rights without due process.

6th Amendment - All of the above without any recourse, prior to or available at any point in the future, to trial by jury, much less in a speedy and public manner.

People belong in jail over this, and I'm not talking about Edward Snowden, who deserves a medal.

icart68

Jun-11-13 10:33 PM

So you want to talk about how President Obama and his administration overstepped their bounds & violated the privacy of practically every American in the country by monitoring & collecting vast amounts of phone calls, text messages and internet usage? Yea, sure, just give me one minute. I’ve been tweeting every single little thing I do – let me tell you, that takes up some time. Later, for lunch, I’m gonna Instagram what I’m eating while I update my Facebook info with my name, address, phone number, a million pictures of me, my family and friends and a detailed history of what places I visit and at what times. And then of course, I’ve been meaning to get onto Pinterest so I can finish pinning my favorite home design and architecture pictures so my personal preferences will be available to all who wants to see. So, remind me again…….what was it you wanted to talk about? Invasion of privacy?

KneeAwn

Jun-11-13 9:58 PM

Geez all the bad memories kind w reminds me of Iran-Contra when Ollie couldn't recollect anything and Reagan was oblivious to anything....

billldoesntgetit

Jun-11-13 5:24 PM

Who is in Charge of America???!!! . . . President Obama...I know Nothing

DOJ, Eric Holder...I know Nothing

Bengauzi, Hillary Clinton...I know Nothing

IRS, Louis Learner...I'll Take The 5TH

NSA, Spying and gathering Phone Calls, emails, Texts and Data of Billions of AMERICANS each day!

Russia's, Putin to Edward Snowden...wanna come to Russia???!! How's that for a stick in Obama's non-governing eye???!!!

A Non-Governing President = ObamaNation! . . .

OH...What fine Liberal Leadership WE Have!

AndreaJohnson

Jun-11-13 5:21 PM

Even the poor these days generally have a cell phone and use the Internet at the library. To function in today's society, you need both. This surveillance intrudes upon everybody's rights.

billldoesntgetit

Jun-11-13 5:02 PM

When the Government has to build buildings strictly for a place to store the collected data from the NSA intrusion you can bet your bottom dollar this data will be used for a lot more then terrorism.. Billions of people are not terrorists..never have been ..never will be.. and yet their information is being collected and stored?

This is total communism by the POTUS and his people.. Control is his goal..

namexxx

Jun-11-13 4:58 PM

A surprising number of Americans go without telephone and internet. They're called "the poor."

AndreaJohnson

Jun-11-13 4:46 PM

Impossible in this day and age, unless you feel like going to live in a cabin in the woods, without electricity or running water. Even then, you'll probably show up on Google Earth. Like it or not, these are legitimate concerns and should be the subject of open debate. The attack on the embassy in Benghazi and the government handling of that incident are ALSO worthy of debate and concern.

namexxx

Jun-11-13 2:43 PM

It's a top secret program.

By definition, that means we do NOT know to what extent any civil liberties are being violated.

We do know that the Patriot Act was reauthorized into law as recently as last year. There were no objections from the cheap seats then. Perhaps we were all too busy with the fast and furious Benghazi-gate investigations to take notice.

Whatever the case . . .

Any patriot who now has pre-9/11 type concerns about the NSA program is perfectly free to HANG UP THE PHONE and GET OFF THE INTERNET.

AndreaJohnson

Jun-11-13 1:37 PM

I think it's questionable that our civil liberties need to be violated to this extent to prevent terrorist attacks.

MattRothchild

Jun-11-13 1:26 PM

"What good are civil liberties when you're dead?"

Spoken like a true Bushie.

namexxx

Jun-11-13 12:46 PM

What good are civil liberties when you're dead?

billldoesntgetit

Jun-11-13 12:06 PM

Git If you had your braIN in control yopu could find the information but just becvasue you are incapbale of doing any research I will post it for you. I really feel sorry for you folks on here who do not know how to do internet search to find proof of comments..

US Spy Programs Raise Ire Both Home And Abroad by The Associated Press

June 10, 201310:49 PM WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration faced fresh anger Monday at home and abroad over U.S. spy programs that track phone and Internet messages around the world in the hope of thwarting terrorist threats. But a senior intelligence official said there are no plans to end the secretive surveillance systems.

And GIT there is more but I am going to let you work your little brain and see if you can findit..

 
 

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